Rand L Koler
Seattle, WA
N/A
Law Degree
Awards
Primary Practice Area
Real Estate
Language
English
About
The first part of my career was spent as partner in a large international law firm, then I opened the Seattle office of a large regional lawfirm, where I was also a partner. I found that the structure and attitudes of large firms did not fit how I wanted to practice law, so I decided to hang up my own shingle and practice law in the manner that I believe in. I believe that a lawyer has an obligation to be current in the law and maintain his/her analytical skills at the highest level but just as important is the commitment to the client. That commitment not only includes zealous advocacy, but honesty when the lawyer believes a decision is ill advised, and the duty to advise the client of changes in the law and events that might influence the client's affairs. With my clients I aspire to a sense of trust and partnership in reaching a common goal, the welfare of the client. My clients tend to stay with me, as they know they can call me any time and over time, as we get to know eachother, a relationship of trust evolves that is not easily found. For me the greatest pleasure in practicing law has been my realtionship with my clients and the sense of serving them well.
Practices Areas
Business
Real Estate
Language
English
Contact
Rand L. Koler & Associates, P.S.615 Second AvenueSeattle, WA, 98104615 Second AvenueSeattle, WA, 98104
Office: N/A
Website: N/AReviews
The impact of Mr. Rand L. Koler was absolutely essential to the success of my deal. The responses were timely, and most of the time the job was done faster than expected. The paperwork shined out with the craftsmanship of an expert and the capture of smallest of the details. With all that, the services, Mr. Rand L. Koler provided were absolutely affordable. He stepped out of his way seeing me struggling in negotiations with the borrower and provided best pieces of advice. Putting the long story short - I felt guided by the hand.
Rand has worked with me on possibly the most varied set of legal adventures over the 15 years I've known him, ranging from drafting legal documents for a rather unusual creative project to help with legal issues related to family medical events to working through tenant concerns. Aside from just being a tremendous human being, Rand is an engaged and passionate about finding solutions, advocating for clients and engaging on both the rigorous legal and delicate human side of any situation. Most recently he helped us move quickly through a residential issue that I feared at the outset would become a contentious quagmire, instead is was solved quickly and gracefully in less time than I imagined possible due to his insight and experience.
My experience with Rand Koler has been amazing! The previous company I worked for improperly withheld a large amount of my wages and I needed an attorney that would take the time to understand the complex nature of my compensation structure to determine if there was a basis to to pursue the matter in court. Rand's ability to quickly get to the heart of the agreements allowed us to get the matter in motion way sooner than I was anticipating, and the filing ended up being in much greater detail than I originally expected. I am confident our case will result in a favorable outcome and am very happy to be working with Rand.
Mr. Koler and his staff were very professional throughout our case, their diligence and effort helped us to achieve an outcome much better than we expected.
The impact of Mr. Rand L. Koler was absolutely essential to the success of my deal. The responses were timely, and most of the time the job was done faster than expected. The paperwork shined out with the craftsmanship of an expert and the capture of smallest of the details. With all that, the services, Mr. Rand L. Koler provided were absolutely affordable. He stepped out of his way seeing me struggling in negotiations with the borrower and provided best pieces of advice. Putting the long story short - I felt guided by the hand.
Rand has worked with me on possibly the most varied set of legal adventures over the 15 years I've known him, ranging from drafting legal documents for a rather unusual creative project to help with legal issues related to family medical events to working through tenant concerns. Aside from just being a tremendous human being, Rand is an engaged and passionate about finding solutions, advocating for clients and engaging on both the rigorous legal and delicate human side of any situation. Most recently he helped us move quickly through a residential issue that I feared at the outset would become a contentious quagmire, instead is was solved quickly and gracefully in less time than I imagined possible due to his insight and experience.
My experience with Rand Koler has been amazing! The previous company I worked for improperly withheld a large amount of my wages and I needed an attorney that would take the time to understand the complex nature of my compensation structure to determine if there was a basis to to pursue the matter in court. Rand's ability to quickly get to the heart of the agreements allowed us to get the matter in motion way sooner than I was anticipating, and the filing ended up being in much greater detail than I originally expected. I am confident our case will result in a favorable outcome and am very happy to be working with Rand.
Mr. Koler and his staff were very professional throughout our case, their diligence and effort helped us to achieve an outcome much better than we expected.
The impact of Mr. Rand L. Koler was absolutely essential to the success of my deal. The responses were timely, and most of the time the job was done faster than expected. The paperwork shined out with the craftsmanship of an expert and the capture of smallest of the details. With all that, the services, Mr. Rand L. Koler provided were absolutely affordable. He stepped out of his way seeing me struggling in negotiations with the borrower and provided best pieces of advice. Putting the long story short - I felt guided by the hand.
Rand has worked with me on possibly the most varied set of legal adventures over the 15 years I've known him, ranging from drafting legal documents for a rather unusual creative project to help with legal issues related to family medical events to working through tenant concerns. Aside from just being a tremendous human being, Rand is an engaged and passionate about finding solutions, advocating for clients and engaging on both the rigorous legal and delicate human side of any situation. Most recently he helped us move quickly through a residential issue that I feared at the outset would become a contentious quagmire, instead is was solved quickly and gracefully in less time than I imagined possible due to his insight and experience.
My experience with Rand Koler has been amazing! The previous company I worked for improperly withheld a large amount of my wages and I needed an attorney that would take the time to understand the complex nature of my compensation structure to determine if there was a basis to to pursue the matter in court. Rand's ability to quickly get to the heart of the agreements allowed us to get the matter in motion way sooner than I was anticipating, and the filing ended up being in much greater detail than I originally expected. I am confident our case will result in a favorable outcome and am very happy to be working with Rand.
Mr. Koler and his staff were very professional throughout our case, their diligence and effort helped us to achieve an outcome much better than we expected.
The impact of Mr. Rand L. Koler was absolutely essential to the success of my deal. The responses were timely, and most of the time the job was done faster than expected. The paperwork shined out with the craftsmanship of an expert and the capture of smallest of the details. With all that, the services, Mr. Rand L. Koler provided were absolutely affordable. He stepped out of his way seeing me struggling in negotiations with the borrower and provided best pieces of advice. Putting the long story short - I felt guided by the hand.
Rand has worked with me on possibly the most varied set of legal adventures over the 15 years I've known him, ranging from drafting legal documents for a rather unusual creative project to help with legal issues related to family medical events to working through tenant concerns. Aside from just being a tremendous human being, Rand is an engaged and passionate about finding solutions, advocating for clients and engaging on both the rigorous legal and delicate human side of any situation. Most recently he helped us move quickly through a residential issue that I feared at the outset would become a contentious quagmire, instead is was solved quickly and gracefully in less time than I imagined possible due to his insight and experience.
My experience with Rand Koler has been amazing! The previous company I worked for improperly withheld a large amount of my wages and I needed an attorney that would take the time to understand the complex nature of my compensation structure to determine if there was a basis to to pursue the matter in court. Rand's ability to quickly get to the heart of the agreements allowed us to get the matter in motion way sooner than I was anticipating, and the filing ended up being in much greater detail than I originally expected. I am confident our case will result in a favorable outcome and am very happy to be working with Rand.
Mr. Koler and his staff were very professional throughout our case, their diligence and effort helped us to achieve an outcome much better than we expected.
The impact of Mr. Rand L. Koler was absolutely essential to the success of my deal. The responses were timely, and most of the time the job was done faster than expected. The paperwork shined out with the craftsmanship of an expert and the capture of smallest of the details. With all that, the services, Mr. Rand L. Koler provided were absolutely affordable. He stepped out of his way seeing me struggling in negotiations with the borrower and provided best pieces of advice. Putting the long story short - I felt guided by the hand.
Rand has worked with me on possibly the most varied set of legal adventures over the 15 years I've known him, ranging from drafting legal documents for a rather unusual creative project to help with legal issues related to family medical events to working through tenant concerns. Aside from just being a tremendous human being, Rand is an engaged and passionate about finding solutions, advocating for clients and engaging on both the rigorous legal and delicate human side of any situation. Most recently he helped us move quickly through a residential issue that I feared at the outset would become a contentious quagmire, instead is was solved quickly and gracefully in less time than I imagined possible due to his insight and experience.
My experience with Rand Koler has been amazing! The previous company I worked for improperly withheld a large amount of my wages and I needed an attorney that would take the time to understand the complex nature of my compensation structure to determine if there was a basis to to pursue the matter in court. Rand's ability to quickly get to the heart of the agreements allowed us to get the matter in motion way sooner than I was anticipating, and the filing ended up being in much greater detail than I originally expected. I am confident our case will result in a favorable outcome and am very happy to be working with Rand.
Mr. Koler and his staff were very professional throughout our case, their diligence and effort helped us to achieve an outcome much better than we expected.
The impact of Mr. Rand L. Koler was absolutely essential to the success of my deal. The responses were timely, and most of the time the job was done faster than expected. The paperwork shined out with the craftsmanship of an expert and the capture of smallest of the details. With all that, the services, Mr. Rand L. Koler provided were absolutely affordable. He stepped out of his way seeing me struggling in negotiations with the borrower and provided best pieces of advice. Putting the long story short - I felt guided by the hand.
Rand has worked with me on possibly the most varied set of legal adventures over the 15 years I've known him, ranging from drafting legal documents for a rather unusual creative project to help with legal issues related to family medical events to working through tenant concerns. Aside from just being a tremendous human being, Rand is an engaged and passionate about finding solutions, advocating for clients and engaging on both the rigorous legal and delicate human side of any situation. Most recently he helped us move quickly through a residential issue that I feared at the outset would become a contentious quagmire, instead is was solved quickly and gracefully in less time than I imagined possible due to his insight and experience.
My experience with Rand Koler has been amazing! The previous company I worked for improperly withheld a large amount of my wages and I needed an attorney that would take the time to understand the complex nature of my compensation structure to determine if there was a basis to to pursue the matter in court. Rand's ability to quickly get to the heart of the agreements allowed us to get the matter in motion way sooner than I was anticipating, and the filing ended up being in much greater detail than I originally expected. I am confident our case will result in a favorable outcome and am very happy to be working with Rand.
Mr. Koler and his staff were very professional throughout our case, their diligence and effort helped us to achieve an outcome much better than we expected.
The impact of Mr. Rand L. Koler was absolutely essential to the success of my deal. The responses were timely, and most of the time the job was done faster than expected. The paperwork shined out with the craftsmanship of an expert and the capture of smallest of the details. With all that, the services, Mr. Rand L. Koler provided were absolutely affordable. He stepped out of his way seeing me struggling in negotiations with the borrower and provided best pieces of advice. Putting the long story short - I felt guided by the hand.
Rand has worked with me on possibly the most varied set of legal adventures over the 15 years I've known him, ranging from drafting legal documents for a rather unusual creative project to help with legal issues related to family medical events to working through tenant concerns. Aside from just being a tremendous human being, Rand is an engaged and passionate about finding solutions, advocating for clients and engaging on both the rigorous legal and delicate human side of any situation. Most recently he helped us move quickly through a residential issue that I feared at the outset would become a contentious quagmire, instead is was solved quickly and gracefully in less time than I imagined possible due to his insight and experience.
My experience with Rand Koler has been amazing! The previous company I worked for improperly withheld a large amount of my wages and I needed an attorney that would take the time to understand the complex nature of my compensation structure to determine if there was a basis to to pursue the matter in court. Rand's ability to quickly get to the heart of the agreements allowed us to get the matter in motion way sooner than I was anticipating, and the filing ended up being in much greater detail than I originally expected. I am confident our case will result in a favorable outcome and am very happy to be working with Rand.
Mr. Koler and his staff were very professional throughout our case, their diligence and effort helped us to achieve an outcome much better than we expected.
The impact of Mr. Rand L. Koler was absolutely essential to the success of my deal. The responses were timely, and most of the time the job was done faster than expected. The paperwork shined out with the craftsmanship of an expert and the capture of smallest of the details. With all that, the services, Mr. Rand L. Koler provided were absolutely affordable. He stepped out of his way seeing me struggling in negotiations with the borrower and provided best pieces of advice. Putting the long story short - I felt guided by the hand.
Rand has worked with me on possibly the most varied set of legal adventures over the 15 years I've known him, ranging from drafting legal documents for a rather unusual creative project to help with legal issues related to family medical events to working through tenant concerns. Aside from just being a tremendous human being, Rand is an engaged and passionate about finding solutions, advocating for clients and engaging on both the rigorous legal and delicate human side of any situation. Most recently he helped us move quickly through a residential issue that I feared at the outset would become a contentious quagmire, instead is was solved quickly and gracefully in less time than I imagined possible due to his insight and experience.
My experience with Rand Koler has been amazing! The previous company I worked for improperly withheld a large amount of my wages and I needed an attorney that would take the time to understand the complex nature of my compensation structure to determine if there was a basis to to pursue the matter in court. Rand's ability to quickly get to the heart of the agreements allowed us to get the matter in motion way sooner than I was anticipating, and the filing ended up being in much greater detail than I originally expected. I am confident our case will result in a favorable outcome and am very happy to be working with Rand.
Mr. Koler and his staff were very professional throughout our case, their diligence and effort helped us to achieve an outcome much better than we expected.
The impact of Mr. Rand L. Koler was absolutely essential to the success of my deal. The responses were timely, and most of the time the job was done faster than expected. The paperwork shined out with the craftsmanship of an expert and the capture of smallest of the details. With all that, the services, Mr. Rand L. Koler provided were absolutely affordable. He stepped out of his way seeing me struggling in negotiations with the borrower and provided best pieces of advice. Putting the long story short - I felt guided by the hand.
Rand has worked with me on possibly the most varied set of legal adventures over the 15 years I've known him, ranging from drafting legal documents for a rather unusual creative project to help with legal issues related to family medical events to working through tenant concerns. Aside from just being a tremendous human being, Rand is an engaged and passionate about finding solutions, advocating for clients and engaging on both the rigorous legal and delicate human side of any situation. Most recently he helped us move quickly through a residential issue that I feared at the outset would become a contentious quagmire, instead is was solved quickly and gracefully in less time than I imagined possible due to his insight and experience.
My experience with Rand Koler has been amazing! The previous company I worked for improperly withheld a large amount of my wages and I needed an attorney that would take the time to understand the complex nature of my compensation structure to determine if there was a basis to to pursue the matter in court. Rand's ability to quickly get to the heart of the agreements allowed us to get the matter in motion way sooner than I was anticipating, and the filing ended up being in much greater detail than I originally expected. I am confident our case will result in a favorable outcome and am very happy to be working with Rand.
Mr. Koler and his staff were very professional throughout our case, their diligence and effort helped us to achieve an outcome much better than we expected.
The impact of Mr. Rand L. Koler was absolutely essential to the success of my deal. The responses were timely, and most of the time the job was done faster than expected. The paperwork shined out with the craftsmanship of an expert and the capture of smallest of the details. With all that, the services, Mr. Rand L. Koler provided were absolutely affordable. He stepped out of his way seeing me struggling in negotiations with the borrower and provided best pieces of advice. Putting the long story short - I felt guided by the hand.
Rand has worked with me on possibly the most varied set of legal adventures over the 15 years I've known him, ranging from drafting legal documents for a rather unusual creative project to help with legal issues related to family medical events to working through tenant concerns. Aside from just being a tremendous human being, Rand is an engaged and passionate about finding solutions, advocating for clients and engaging on both the rigorous legal and delicate human side of any situation. Most recently he helped us move quickly through a residential issue that I feared at the outset would become a contentious quagmire, instead is was solved quickly and gracefully in less time than I imagined possible due to his insight and experience.
My experience with Rand Koler has been amazing! The previous company I worked for improperly withheld a large amount of my wages and I needed an attorney that would take the time to understand the complex nature of my compensation structure to determine if there was a basis to to pursue the matter in court. Rand's ability to quickly get to the heart of the agreements allowed us to get the matter in motion way sooner than I was anticipating, and the filing ended up being in much greater detail than I originally expected. I am confident our case will result in a favorable outcome and am very happy to be working with Rand.
Mr. Koler and his staff were very professional throughout our case, their diligence and effort helped us to achieve an outcome much better than we expected.
The impact of Mr. Rand L. Koler was absolutely essential to the success of my deal. The responses were timely, and most of the time the job was done faster than expected. The paperwork shined out with the craftsmanship of an expert and the capture of smallest of the details. With all that, the services, Mr. Rand L. Koler provided were absolutely affordable. He stepped out of his way seeing me struggling in negotiations with the borrower and provided best pieces of advice. Putting the long story short - I felt guided by the hand.
Rand has worked with me on possibly the most varied set of legal adventures over the 15 years I've known him, ranging from drafting legal documents for a rather unusual creative project to help with legal issues related to family medical events to working through tenant concerns. Aside from just being a tremendous human being, Rand is an engaged and passionate about finding solutions, advocating for clients and engaging on both the rigorous legal and delicate human side of any situation. Most recently he helped us move quickly through a residential issue that I feared at the outset would become a contentious quagmire, instead is was solved quickly and gracefully in less time than I imagined possible due to his insight and experience.
My experience with Rand Koler has been amazing! The previous company I worked for improperly withheld a large amount of my wages and I needed an attorney that would take the time to understand the complex nature of my compensation structure to determine if there was a basis to to pursue the matter in court. Rand's ability to quickly get to the heart of the agreements allowed us to get the matter in motion way sooner than I was anticipating, and the filing ended up being in much greater detail than I originally expected. I am confident our case will result in a favorable outcome and am very happy to be working with Rand.
Mr. Koler and his staff were very professional throughout our case, their diligence and effort helped us to achieve an outcome much better than we expected.
The impact of Mr. Rand L. Koler was absolutely essential to the success of my deal. The responses were timely, and most of the time the job was done faster than expected. The paperwork shined out with the craftsmanship of an expert and the capture of smallest of the details. With all that, the services, Mr. Rand L. Koler provided were absolutely affordable. He stepped out of his way seeing me struggling in negotiations with the borrower and provided best pieces of advice. Putting the long story short - I felt guided by the hand.
Rand has worked with me on possibly the most varied set of legal adventures over the 15 years I've known him, ranging from drafting legal documents for a rather unusual creative project to help with legal issues related to family medical events to working through tenant concerns. Aside from just being a tremendous human being, Rand is an engaged and passionate about finding solutions, advocating for clients and engaging on both the rigorous legal and delicate human side of any situation. Most recently he helped us move quickly through a residential issue that I feared at the outset would become a contentious quagmire, instead is was solved quickly and gracefully in less time than I imagined possible due to his insight and experience.
My experience with Rand Koler has been amazing! The previous company I worked for improperly withheld a large amount of my wages and I needed an attorney that would take the time to understand the complex nature of my compensation structure to determine if there was a basis to to pursue the matter in court. Rand's ability to quickly get to the heart of the agreements allowed us to get the matter in motion way sooner than I was anticipating, and the filing ended up being in much greater detail than I originally expected. I am confident our case will result in a favorable outcome and am very happy to be working with Rand.
Mr. Koler and his staff were very professional throughout our case, their diligence and effort helped us to achieve an outcome much better than we expected.
The impact of Mr. Rand L. Koler was absolutely essential to the success of my deal. The responses were timely, and most of the time the job was done faster than expected. The paperwork shined out with the craftsmanship of an expert and the capture of smallest of the details. With all that, the services, Mr. Rand L. Koler provided were absolutely affordable. He stepped out of his way seeing me struggling in negotiations with the borrower and provided best pieces of advice. Putting the long story short - I felt guided by the hand.
Rand has worked with me on possibly the most varied set of legal adventures over the 15 years I've known him, ranging from drafting legal documents for a rather unusual creative project to help with legal issues related to family medical events to working through tenant concerns. Aside from just being a tremendous human being, Rand is an engaged and passionate about finding solutions, advocating for clients and engaging on both the rigorous legal and delicate human side of any situation. Most recently he helped us move quickly through a residential issue that I feared at the outset would become a contentious quagmire, instead is was solved quickly and gracefully in less time than I imagined possible due to his insight and experience.
My experience with Rand Koler has been amazing! The previous company I worked for improperly withheld a large amount of my wages and I needed an attorney that would take the time to understand the complex nature of my compensation structure to determine if there was a basis to to pursue the matter in court. Rand's ability to quickly get to the heart of the agreements allowed us to get the matter in motion way sooner than I was anticipating, and the filing ended up being in much greater detail than I originally expected. I am confident our case will result in a favorable outcome and am very happy to be working with Rand.
Mr. Koler and his staff were very professional throughout our case, their diligence and effort helped us to achieve an outcome much better than we expected.
The impact of Mr. Rand L. Koler was absolutely essential to the success of my deal. The responses were timely, and most of the time the job was done faster than expected. The paperwork shined out with the craftsmanship of an expert and the capture of smallest of the details. With all that, the services, Mr. Rand L. Koler provided were absolutely affordable. He stepped out of his way seeing me struggling in negotiations with the borrower and provided best pieces of advice. Putting the long story short - I felt guided by the hand.
Rand has worked with me on possibly the most varied set of legal adventures over the 15 years I've known him, ranging from drafting legal documents for a rather unusual creative project to help with legal issues related to family medical events to working through tenant concerns. Aside from just being a tremendous human being, Rand is an engaged and passionate about finding solutions, advocating for clients and engaging on both the rigorous legal and delicate human side of any situation. Most recently he helped us move quickly through a residential issue that I feared at the outset would become a contentious quagmire, instead is was solved quickly and gracefully in less time than I imagined possible due to his insight and experience.
My experience with Rand Koler has been amazing! The previous company I worked for improperly withheld a large amount of my wages and I needed an attorney that would take the time to understand the complex nature of my compensation structure to determine if there was a basis to to pursue the matter in court. Rand's ability to quickly get to the heart of the agreements allowed us to get the matter in motion way sooner than I was anticipating, and the filing ended up being in much greater detail than I originally expected. I am confident our case will result in a favorable outcome and am very happy to be working with Rand.
Mr. Koler and his staff were very professional throughout our case, their diligence and effort helped us to achieve an outcome much better than we expected.
The impact of Mr. Rand L. Koler was absolutely essential to the success of my deal. The responses were timely, and most of the time the job was done faster than expected. The paperwork shined out with the craftsmanship of an expert and the capture of smallest of the details. With all that, the services, Mr. Rand L. Koler provided were absolutely affordable. He stepped out of his way seeing me struggling in negotiations with the borrower and provided best pieces of advice. Putting the long story short - I felt guided by the hand.
Rand has worked with me on possibly the most varied set of legal adventures over the 15 years I've known him, ranging from drafting legal documents for a rather unusual creative project to help with legal issues related to family medical events to working through tenant concerns. Aside from just being a tremendous human being, Rand is an engaged and passionate about finding solutions, advocating for clients and engaging on both the rigorous legal and delicate human side of any situation. Most recently he helped us move quickly through a residential issue that I feared at the outset would become a contentious quagmire, instead is was solved quickly and gracefully in less time than I imagined possible due to his insight and experience.
My experience with Rand Koler has been amazing! The previous company I worked for improperly withheld a large amount of my wages and I needed an attorney that would take the time to understand the complex nature of my compensation structure to determine if there was a basis to to pursue the matter in court. Rand's ability to quickly get to the heart of the agreements allowed us to get the matter in motion way sooner than I was anticipating, and the filing ended up being in much greater detail than I originally expected. I am confident our case will result in a favorable outcome and am very happy to be working with Rand.
Mr. Koler and his staff were very professional throughout our case, their diligence and effort helped us to achieve an outcome much better than we expected.
The impact of Mr. Rand L. Koler was absolutely essential to the success of my deal. The responses were timely, and most of the time the job was done faster than expected. The paperwork shined out with the craftsmanship of an expert and the capture of smallest of the details. With all that, the services, Mr. Rand L. Koler provided were absolutely affordable. He stepped out of his way seeing me struggling in negotiations with the borrower and provided best pieces of advice. Putting the long story short - I felt guided by the hand.
Rand has worked with me on possibly the most varied set of legal adventures over the 15 years I've known him, ranging from drafting legal documents for a rather unusual creative project to help with legal issues related to family medical events to working through tenant concerns. Aside from just being a tremendous human being, Rand is an engaged and passionate about finding solutions, advocating for clients and engaging on both the rigorous legal and delicate human side of any situation. Most recently he helped us move quickly through a residential issue that I feared at the outset would become a contentious quagmire, instead is was solved quickly and gracefully in less time than I imagined possible due to his insight and experience.
My experience with Rand Koler has been amazing! The previous company I worked for improperly withheld a large amount of my wages and I needed an attorney that would take the time to understand the complex nature of my compensation structure to determine if there was a basis to to pursue the matter in court. Rand's ability to quickly get to the heart of the agreements allowed us to get the matter in motion way sooner than I was anticipating, and the filing ended up being in much greater detail than I originally expected. I am confident our case will result in a favorable outcome and am very happy to be working with Rand.
Mr. Koler and his staff were very professional throughout our case, their diligence and effort helped us to achieve an outcome much better than we expected.