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Jerome Tepper

Glendale, WI

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Law Degree

Awards

Primary Practice Area

Bankruptcy & Debt

Language

English

About

Practices Areas

Bankruptcy & Debt

Family

Probate

Language

English

Contact

Jerome A Tepper S.C.350 W Green Tree RdGlendale, WI, 53217

Office: N/A

Website: N/A

Reviews

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.

John
June 28, 2011

Jerome Tepper represented me in a divorce case and a follow-up for child support reduction due to change in employment circumstances (non-W2 to W2). I found him reliable and very patient, considering I am not. Jerome handled my case professionally. Contrary to his own financial interests, he always encouraged me to "work things out" with my ex-spouse and seek an agreement to avoid unnecessary legal hassles and fees. While this proved difficult, it was definitely worth the effort pursued, and Jerome's encouragement of this approach says much for his personal character! I also found Jerome to be accurate and (yet sometimes) intentionally vague in his explanations of how family law is suppose to work. Jerome would rarely state with certainty how a judge would (or should) rule for my case. I'm not sure if Jerome was simply being cautious or if judge rulings are inherently unpredictable in family law cases. This uncertainty was unsettling to me during my divorce, yet Jerome maintained his professionalism by providing me with the accurate information he could and not speculating on outcomes he couldn't guarantee!

anonymous
September 14, 2011

I attempted to retain Mr. Tepper's services, and after a brief conversation, he said he would call me back the same day after reviewing the file. He never called back...ever. I tried to call him numerous times thereafter, and he never returned my call. In my opinion, this shows an extreme lack of character and professionalism. With so many attorneys available, why would you choose someone who truly doesn't care.