Greg Call
Vancouver, WA
N/A
Law Degree
Awards
Primary Practice Area
Real Estate
Language
English
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Practices Areas
Estate Planning
Elder Law
Language
English
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Reviews
After my grandmother died I started working with him on the estate. She died in December 2009, As of today (May 2 2011) we still haven't closed it up. I have spend the last year emailing and calling him and getting 1 response for every 10 I send. When My grandfather was diagnosed with cancer I found out that per Greg's advice my grandparents had signed their Power of Attorney to a care giver they wanted to get rid of because she charged too much. I tried to get my grandpa a new attorney. The new guy sent some papers over to Greg to get them filled out and returned so my grandpa could hand off power of attorney to me. Due to the cancer my grandpa had, they needed to put him on I.V. Meds and Greg waited until AFTER he was on the meds to show up and by that point he deemed my grandpa unable to make his own decisions and we had to try to work with the care giver.
Greg Call is the attorney for my deceased father in law's estate. He is unbelievably incompetent. Numerous errors with names, dates, addresses. Won't return phone calls or emails. He sent out signature pages to incorrect email addresses, 1 of the 5 emails was correct and complete! So many typos and problems with documents. As an heir I had to hire my own attorney and Call won't return his phone calls. Definitely going to file a complaint with the Bar Associaiton ethics board.
My mother-in-law passed away over 3 years ago. We chose this guy over recommendations in elder law plus his work supporting the local chapter of the Special Olympics. Like the other reviewer he is sloooooowwww. We have a car stuck in our garage that we haven't been able to sell because he told us we couldn't sell it and last year he asked why we hadn't sold it (huh?)?? We got 2nd appraisal months ago and he still hasn't returned our calls to lets us know if we can sell it or not. Its been a nightmare even trying to get through to a secretary and he never returns calls.
After my grandmother died I started working with him on the estate. She died in December 2009, As of today (May 2 2011) we still haven't closed it up. I have spend the last year emailing and calling him and getting 1 response for every 10 I send. When My grandfather was diagnosed with cancer I found out that per Greg's advice my grandparents had signed their Power of Attorney to a care giver they wanted to get rid of because she charged too much. I tried to get my grandpa a new attorney. The new guy sent some papers over to Greg to get them filled out and returned so my grandpa could hand off power of attorney to me. Due to the cancer my grandpa had, they needed to put him on I.V. Meds and Greg waited until AFTER he was on the meds to show up and by that point he deemed my grandpa unable to make his own decisions and we had to try to work with the care giver.
Greg Call is the attorney for my deceased father in law's estate. He is unbelievably incompetent. Numerous errors with names, dates, addresses. Won't return phone calls or emails. He sent out signature pages to incorrect email addresses, 1 of the 5 emails was correct and complete! So many typos and problems with documents. As an heir I had to hire my own attorney and Call won't return his phone calls. Definitely going to file a complaint with the Bar Associaiton ethics board.
My mother-in-law passed away over 3 years ago. We chose this guy over recommendations in elder law plus his work supporting the local chapter of the Special Olympics. Like the other reviewer he is sloooooowwww. We have a car stuck in our garage that we haven't been able to sell because he told us we couldn't sell it and last year he asked why we hadn't sold it (huh?)?? We got 2nd appraisal months ago and he still hasn't returned our calls to lets us know if we can sell it or not. Its been a nightmare even trying to get through to a secretary and he never returns calls.
After my grandmother died I started working with him on the estate. She died in December 2009, As of today (May 2 2011) we still haven't closed it up. I have spend the last year emailing and calling him and getting 1 response for every 10 I send. When My grandfather was diagnosed with cancer I found out that per Greg's advice my grandparents had signed their Power of Attorney to a care giver they wanted to get rid of because she charged too much. I tried to get my grandpa a new attorney. The new guy sent some papers over to Greg to get them filled out and returned so my grandpa could hand off power of attorney to me. Due to the cancer my grandpa had, they needed to put him on I.V. Meds and Greg waited until AFTER he was on the meds to show up and by that point he deemed my grandpa unable to make his own decisions and we had to try to work with the care giver.
Greg Call is the attorney for my deceased father in law's estate. He is unbelievably incompetent. Numerous errors with names, dates, addresses. Won't return phone calls or emails. He sent out signature pages to incorrect email addresses, 1 of the 5 emails was correct and complete! So many typos and problems with documents. As an heir I had to hire my own attorney and Call won't return his phone calls. Definitely going to file a complaint with the Bar Associaiton ethics board.
My mother-in-law passed away over 3 years ago. We chose this guy over recommendations in elder law plus his work supporting the local chapter of the Special Olympics. Like the other reviewer he is sloooooowwww. We have a car stuck in our garage that we haven't been able to sell because he told us we couldn't sell it and last year he asked why we hadn't sold it (huh?)?? We got 2nd appraisal months ago and he still hasn't returned our calls to lets us know if we can sell it or not. Its been a nightmare even trying to get through to a secretary and he never returns calls.
After my grandmother died I started working with him on the estate. She died in December 2009, As of today (May 2 2011) we still haven't closed it up. I have spend the last year emailing and calling him and getting 1 response for every 10 I send. When My grandfather was diagnosed with cancer I found out that per Greg's advice my grandparents had signed their Power of Attorney to a care giver they wanted to get rid of because she charged too much. I tried to get my grandpa a new attorney. The new guy sent some papers over to Greg to get them filled out and returned so my grandpa could hand off power of attorney to me. Due to the cancer my grandpa had, they needed to put him on I.V. Meds and Greg waited until AFTER he was on the meds to show up and by that point he deemed my grandpa unable to make his own decisions and we had to try to work with the care giver.
Greg Call is the attorney for my deceased father in law's estate. He is unbelievably incompetent. Numerous errors with names, dates, addresses. Won't return phone calls or emails. He sent out signature pages to incorrect email addresses, 1 of the 5 emails was correct and complete! So many typos and problems with documents. As an heir I had to hire my own attorney and Call won't return his phone calls. Definitely going to file a complaint with the Bar Associaiton ethics board.
My mother-in-law passed away over 3 years ago. We chose this guy over recommendations in elder law plus his work supporting the local chapter of the Special Olympics. Like the other reviewer he is sloooooowwww. We have a car stuck in our garage that we haven't been able to sell because he told us we couldn't sell it and last year he asked why we hadn't sold it (huh?)?? We got 2nd appraisal months ago and he still hasn't returned our calls to lets us know if we can sell it or not. Its been a nightmare even trying to get through to a secretary and he never returns calls.
After my grandmother died I started working with him on the estate. She died in December 2009, As of today (May 2 2011) we still haven't closed it up. I have spend the last year emailing and calling him and getting 1 response for every 10 I send. When My grandfather was diagnosed with cancer I found out that per Greg's advice my grandparents had signed their Power of Attorney to a care giver they wanted to get rid of because she charged too much. I tried to get my grandpa a new attorney. The new guy sent some papers over to Greg to get them filled out and returned so my grandpa could hand off power of attorney to me. Due to the cancer my grandpa had, they needed to put him on I.V. Meds and Greg waited until AFTER he was on the meds to show up and by that point he deemed my grandpa unable to make his own decisions and we had to try to work with the care giver.
Greg Call is the attorney for my deceased father in law's estate. He is unbelievably incompetent. Numerous errors with names, dates, addresses. Won't return phone calls or emails. He sent out signature pages to incorrect email addresses, 1 of the 5 emails was correct and complete! So many typos and problems with documents. As an heir I had to hire my own attorney and Call won't return his phone calls. Definitely going to file a complaint with the Bar Associaiton ethics board.
My mother-in-law passed away over 3 years ago. We chose this guy over recommendations in elder law plus his work supporting the local chapter of the Special Olympics. Like the other reviewer he is sloooooowwww. We have a car stuck in our garage that we haven't been able to sell because he told us we couldn't sell it and last year he asked why we hadn't sold it (huh?)?? We got 2nd appraisal months ago and he still hasn't returned our calls to lets us know if we can sell it or not. Its been a nightmare even trying to get through to a secretary and he never returns calls.
After my grandmother died I started working with him on the estate. She died in December 2009, As of today (May 2 2011) we still haven't closed it up. I have spend the last year emailing and calling him and getting 1 response for every 10 I send. When My grandfather was diagnosed with cancer I found out that per Greg's advice my grandparents had signed their Power of Attorney to a care giver they wanted to get rid of because she charged too much. I tried to get my grandpa a new attorney. The new guy sent some papers over to Greg to get them filled out and returned so my grandpa could hand off power of attorney to me. Due to the cancer my grandpa had, they needed to put him on I.V. Meds and Greg waited until AFTER he was on the meds to show up and by that point he deemed my grandpa unable to make his own decisions and we had to try to work with the care giver.
Greg Call is the attorney for my deceased father in law's estate. He is unbelievably incompetent. Numerous errors with names, dates, addresses. Won't return phone calls or emails. He sent out signature pages to incorrect email addresses, 1 of the 5 emails was correct and complete! So many typos and problems with documents. As an heir I had to hire my own attorney and Call won't return his phone calls. Definitely going to file a complaint with the Bar Associaiton ethics board.
My mother-in-law passed away over 3 years ago. We chose this guy over recommendations in elder law plus his work supporting the local chapter of the Special Olympics. Like the other reviewer he is sloooooowwww. We have a car stuck in our garage that we haven't been able to sell because he told us we couldn't sell it and last year he asked why we hadn't sold it (huh?)?? We got 2nd appraisal months ago and he still hasn't returned our calls to lets us know if we can sell it or not. Its been a nightmare even trying to get through to a secretary and he never returns calls.
After my grandmother died I started working with him on the estate. She died in December 2009, As of today (May 2 2011) we still haven't closed it up. I have spend the last year emailing and calling him and getting 1 response for every 10 I send. When My grandfather was diagnosed with cancer I found out that per Greg's advice my grandparents had signed their Power of Attorney to a care giver they wanted to get rid of because she charged too much. I tried to get my grandpa a new attorney. The new guy sent some papers over to Greg to get them filled out and returned so my grandpa could hand off power of attorney to me. Due to the cancer my grandpa had, they needed to put him on I.V. Meds and Greg waited until AFTER he was on the meds to show up and by that point he deemed my grandpa unable to make his own decisions and we had to try to work with the care giver.
Greg Call is the attorney for my deceased father in law's estate. He is unbelievably incompetent. Numerous errors with names, dates, addresses. Won't return phone calls or emails. He sent out signature pages to incorrect email addresses, 1 of the 5 emails was correct and complete! So many typos and problems with documents. As an heir I had to hire my own attorney and Call won't return his phone calls. Definitely going to file a complaint with the Bar Associaiton ethics board.
My mother-in-law passed away over 3 years ago. We chose this guy over recommendations in elder law plus his work supporting the local chapter of the Special Olympics. Like the other reviewer he is sloooooowwww. We have a car stuck in our garage that we haven't been able to sell because he told us we couldn't sell it and last year he asked why we hadn't sold it (huh?)?? We got 2nd appraisal months ago and he still hasn't returned our calls to lets us know if we can sell it or not. Its been a nightmare even trying to get through to a secretary and he never returns calls.
After my grandmother died I started working with him on the estate. She died in December 2009, As of today (May 2 2011) we still haven't closed it up. I have spend the last year emailing and calling him and getting 1 response for every 10 I send. When My grandfather was diagnosed with cancer I found out that per Greg's advice my grandparents had signed their Power of Attorney to a care giver they wanted to get rid of because she charged too much. I tried to get my grandpa a new attorney. The new guy sent some papers over to Greg to get them filled out and returned so my grandpa could hand off power of attorney to me. Due to the cancer my grandpa had, they needed to put him on I.V. Meds and Greg waited until AFTER he was on the meds to show up and by that point he deemed my grandpa unable to make his own decisions and we had to try to work with the care giver.
Greg Call is the attorney for my deceased father in law's estate. He is unbelievably incompetent. Numerous errors with names, dates, addresses. Won't return phone calls or emails. He sent out signature pages to incorrect email addresses, 1 of the 5 emails was correct and complete! So many typos and problems with documents. As an heir I had to hire my own attorney and Call won't return his phone calls. Definitely going to file a complaint with the Bar Associaiton ethics board.
My mother-in-law passed away over 3 years ago. We chose this guy over recommendations in elder law plus his work supporting the local chapter of the Special Olympics. Like the other reviewer he is sloooooowwww. We have a car stuck in our garage that we haven't been able to sell because he told us we couldn't sell it and last year he asked why we hadn't sold it (huh?)?? We got 2nd appraisal months ago and he still hasn't returned our calls to lets us know if we can sell it or not. Its been a nightmare even trying to get through to a secretary and he never returns calls.
After my grandmother died I started working with him on the estate. She died in December 2009, As of today (May 2 2011) we still haven't closed it up. I have spend the last year emailing and calling him and getting 1 response for every 10 I send. When My grandfather was diagnosed with cancer I found out that per Greg's advice my grandparents had signed their Power of Attorney to a care giver they wanted to get rid of because she charged too much. I tried to get my grandpa a new attorney. The new guy sent some papers over to Greg to get them filled out and returned so my grandpa could hand off power of attorney to me. Due to the cancer my grandpa had, they needed to put him on I.V. Meds and Greg waited until AFTER he was on the meds to show up and by that point he deemed my grandpa unable to make his own decisions and we had to try to work with the care giver.
Greg Call is the attorney for my deceased father in law's estate. He is unbelievably incompetent. Numerous errors with names, dates, addresses. Won't return phone calls or emails. He sent out signature pages to incorrect email addresses, 1 of the 5 emails was correct and complete! So many typos and problems with documents. As an heir I had to hire my own attorney and Call won't return his phone calls. Definitely going to file a complaint with the Bar Associaiton ethics board.
My mother-in-law passed away over 3 years ago. We chose this guy over recommendations in elder law plus his work supporting the local chapter of the Special Olympics. Like the other reviewer he is sloooooowwww. We have a car stuck in our garage that we haven't been able to sell because he told us we couldn't sell it and last year he asked why we hadn't sold it (huh?)?? We got 2nd appraisal months ago and he still hasn't returned our calls to lets us know if we can sell it or not. Its been a nightmare even trying to get through to a secretary and he never returns calls.
After my grandmother died I started working with him on the estate. She died in December 2009, As of today (May 2 2011) we still haven't closed it up. I have spend the last year emailing and calling him and getting 1 response for every 10 I send. When My grandfather was diagnosed with cancer I found out that per Greg's advice my grandparents had signed their Power of Attorney to a care giver they wanted to get rid of because she charged too much. I tried to get my grandpa a new attorney. The new guy sent some papers over to Greg to get them filled out and returned so my grandpa could hand off power of attorney to me. Due to the cancer my grandpa had, they needed to put him on I.V. Meds and Greg waited until AFTER he was on the meds to show up and by that point he deemed my grandpa unable to make his own decisions and we had to try to work with the care giver.
Greg Call is the attorney for my deceased father in law's estate. He is unbelievably incompetent. Numerous errors with names, dates, addresses. Won't return phone calls or emails. He sent out signature pages to incorrect email addresses, 1 of the 5 emails was correct and complete! So many typos and problems with documents. As an heir I had to hire my own attorney and Call won't return his phone calls. Definitely going to file a complaint with the Bar Associaiton ethics board.
My mother-in-law passed away over 3 years ago. We chose this guy over recommendations in elder law plus his work supporting the local chapter of the Special Olympics. Like the other reviewer he is sloooooowwww. We have a car stuck in our garage that we haven't been able to sell because he told us we couldn't sell it and last year he asked why we hadn't sold it (huh?)?? We got 2nd appraisal months ago and he still hasn't returned our calls to lets us know if we can sell it or not. Its been a nightmare even trying to get through to a secretary and he never returns calls.
After my grandmother died I started working with him on the estate. She died in December 2009, As of today (May 2 2011) we still haven't closed it up. I have spend the last year emailing and calling him and getting 1 response for every 10 I send. When My grandfather was diagnosed with cancer I found out that per Greg's advice my grandparents had signed their Power of Attorney to a care giver they wanted to get rid of because she charged too much. I tried to get my grandpa a new attorney. The new guy sent some papers over to Greg to get them filled out and returned so my grandpa could hand off power of attorney to me. Due to the cancer my grandpa had, they needed to put him on I.V. Meds and Greg waited until AFTER he was on the meds to show up and by that point he deemed my grandpa unable to make his own decisions and we had to try to work with the care giver.
Greg Call is the attorney for my deceased father in law's estate. He is unbelievably incompetent. Numerous errors with names, dates, addresses. Won't return phone calls or emails. He sent out signature pages to incorrect email addresses, 1 of the 5 emails was correct and complete! So many typos and problems with documents. As an heir I had to hire my own attorney and Call won't return his phone calls. Definitely going to file a complaint with the Bar Associaiton ethics board.
My mother-in-law passed away over 3 years ago. We chose this guy over recommendations in elder law plus his work supporting the local chapter of the Special Olympics. Like the other reviewer he is sloooooowwww. We have a car stuck in our garage that we haven't been able to sell because he told us we couldn't sell it and last year he asked why we hadn't sold it (huh?)?? We got 2nd appraisal months ago and he still hasn't returned our calls to lets us know if we can sell it or not. Its been a nightmare even trying to get through to a secretary and he never returns calls.
After my grandmother died I started working with him on the estate. She died in December 2009, As of today (May 2 2011) we still haven't closed it up. I have spend the last year emailing and calling him and getting 1 response for every 10 I send. When My grandfather was diagnosed with cancer I found out that per Greg's advice my grandparents had signed their Power of Attorney to a care giver they wanted to get rid of because she charged too much. I tried to get my grandpa a new attorney. The new guy sent some papers over to Greg to get them filled out and returned so my grandpa could hand off power of attorney to me. Due to the cancer my grandpa had, they needed to put him on I.V. Meds and Greg waited until AFTER he was on the meds to show up and by that point he deemed my grandpa unable to make his own decisions and we had to try to work with the care giver.
Greg Call is the attorney for my deceased father in law's estate. He is unbelievably incompetent. Numerous errors with names, dates, addresses. Won't return phone calls or emails. He sent out signature pages to incorrect email addresses, 1 of the 5 emails was correct and complete! So many typos and problems with documents. As an heir I had to hire my own attorney and Call won't return his phone calls. Definitely going to file a complaint with the Bar Associaiton ethics board.
My mother-in-law passed away over 3 years ago. We chose this guy over recommendations in elder law plus his work supporting the local chapter of the Special Olympics. Like the other reviewer he is sloooooowwww. We have a car stuck in our garage that we haven't been able to sell because he told us we couldn't sell it and last year he asked why we hadn't sold it (huh?)?? We got 2nd appraisal months ago and he still hasn't returned our calls to lets us know if we can sell it or not. Its been a nightmare even trying to get through to a secretary and he never returns calls.
After my grandmother died I started working with him on the estate. She died in December 2009, As of today (May 2 2011) we still haven't closed it up. I have spend the last year emailing and calling him and getting 1 response for every 10 I send. When My grandfather was diagnosed with cancer I found out that per Greg's advice my grandparents had signed their Power of Attorney to a care giver they wanted to get rid of because she charged too much. I tried to get my grandpa a new attorney. The new guy sent some papers over to Greg to get them filled out and returned so my grandpa could hand off power of attorney to me. Due to the cancer my grandpa had, they needed to put him on I.V. Meds and Greg waited until AFTER he was on the meds to show up and by that point he deemed my grandpa unable to make his own decisions and we had to try to work with the care giver.
Greg Call is the attorney for my deceased father in law's estate. He is unbelievably incompetent. Numerous errors with names, dates, addresses. Won't return phone calls or emails. He sent out signature pages to incorrect email addresses, 1 of the 5 emails was correct and complete! So many typos and problems with documents. As an heir I had to hire my own attorney and Call won't return his phone calls. Definitely going to file a complaint with the Bar Associaiton ethics board.
My mother-in-law passed away over 3 years ago. We chose this guy over recommendations in elder law plus his work supporting the local chapter of the Special Olympics. Like the other reviewer he is sloooooowwww. We have a car stuck in our garage that we haven't been able to sell because he told us we couldn't sell it and last year he asked why we hadn't sold it (huh?)?? We got 2nd appraisal months ago and he still hasn't returned our calls to lets us know if we can sell it or not. Its been a nightmare even trying to get through to a secretary and he never returns calls.
After my grandmother died I started working with him on the estate. She died in December 2009, As of today (May 2 2011) we still haven't closed it up. I have spend the last year emailing and calling him and getting 1 response for every 10 I send. When My grandfather was diagnosed with cancer I found out that per Greg's advice my grandparents had signed their Power of Attorney to a care giver they wanted to get rid of because she charged too much. I tried to get my grandpa a new attorney. The new guy sent some papers over to Greg to get them filled out and returned so my grandpa could hand off power of attorney to me. Due to the cancer my grandpa had, they needed to put him on I.V. Meds and Greg waited until AFTER he was on the meds to show up and by that point he deemed my grandpa unable to make his own decisions and we had to try to work with the care giver.
Greg Call is the attorney for my deceased father in law's estate. He is unbelievably incompetent. Numerous errors with names, dates, addresses. Won't return phone calls or emails. He sent out signature pages to incorrect email addresses, 1 of the 5 emails was correct and complete! So many typos and problems with documents. As an heir I had to hire my own attorney and Call won't return his phone calls. Definitely going to file a complaint with the Bar Associaiton ethics board.
My mother-in-law passed away over 3 years ago. We chose this guy over recommendations in elder law plus his work supporting the local chapter of the Special Olympics. Like the other reviewer he is sloooooowwww. We have a car stuck in our garage that we haven't been able to sell because he told us we couldn't sell it and last year he asked why we hadn't sold it (huh?)?? We got 2nd appraisal months ago and he still hasn't returned our calls to lets us know if we can sell it or not. Its been a nightmare even trying to get through to a secretary and he never returns calls.
After my grandmother died I started working with him on the estate. She died in December 2009, As of today (May 2 2011) we still haven't closed it up. I have spend the last year emailing and calling him and getting 1 response for every 10 I send. When My grandfather was diagnosed with cancer I found out that per Greg's advice my grandparents had signed their Power of Attorney to a care giver they wanted to get rid of because she charged too much. I tried to get my grandpa a new attorney. The new guy sent some papers over to Greg to get them filled out and returned so my grandpa could hand off power of attorney to me. Due to the cancer my grandpa had, they needed to put him on I.V. Meds and Greg waited until AFTER he was on the meds to show up and by that point he deemed my grandpa unable to make his own decisions and we had to try to work with the care giver.
Greg Call is the attorney for my deceased father in law's estate. He is unbelievably incompetent. Numerous errors with names, dates, addresses. Won't return phone calls or emails. He sent out signature pages to incorrect email addresses, 1 of the 5 emails was correct and complete! So many typos and problems with documents. As an heir I had to hire my own attorney and Call won't return his phone calls. Definitely going to file a complaint with the Bar Associaiton ethics board.
My mother-in-law passed away over 3 years ago. We chose this guy over recommendations in elder law plus his work supporting the local chapter of the Special Olympics. Like the other reviewer he is sloooooowwww. We have a car stuck in our garage that we haven't been able to sell because he told us we couldn't sell it and last year he asked why we hadn't sold it (huh?)?? We got 2nd appraisal months ago and he still hasn't returned our calls to lets us know if we can sell it or not. Its been a nightmare even trying to get through to a secretary and he never returns calls.
After my grandmother died I started working with him on the estate. She died in December 2009, As of today (May 2 2011) we still haven't closed it up. I have spend the last year emailing and calling him and getting 1 response for every 10 I send. When My grandfather was diagnosed with cancer I found out that per Greg's advice my grandparents had signed their Power of Attorney to a care giver they wanted to get rid of because she charged too much. I tried to get my grandpa a new attorney. The new guy sent some papers over to Greg to get them filled out and returned so my grandpa could hand off power of attorney to me. Due to the cancer my grandpa had, they needed to put him on I.V. Meds and Greg waited until AFTER he was on the meds to show up and by that point he deemed my grandpa unable to make his own decisions and we had to try to work with the care giver.
Greg Call is the attorney for my deceased father in law's estate. He is unbelievably incompetent. Numerous errors with names, dates, addresses. Won't return phone calls or emails. He sent out signature pages to incorrect email addresses, 1 of the 5 emails was correct and complete! So many typos and problems with documents. As an heir I had to hire my own attorney and Call won't return his phone calls. Definitely going to file a complaint with the Bar Associaiton ethics board.
My mother-in-law passed away over 3 years ago. We chose this guy over recommendations in elder law plus his work supporting the local chapter of the Special Olympics. Like the other reviewer he is sloooooowwww. We have a car stuck in our garage that we haven't been able to sell because he told us we couldn't sell it and last year he asked why we hadn't sold it (huh?)?? We got 2nd appraisal months ago and he still hasn't returned our calls to lets us know if we can sell it or not. Its been a nightmare even trying to get through to a secretary and he never returns calls.